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adambosse posted on 12 Jul 2011 10:49 PM

Hi Flood, I am curious as to what kind of work went into the recordings of Mellon Collie and Machina. 

 

1.  on what songs did Darcy perform bass on? were there any songs that she had recorded some parts, only to have them redone by corgan?  was there an overall band working together vibe on either of the records? 

2. how about james and his parts? also, how much involvement did the rest of the band have on the songs written by james? (take me down, etc) 

3.  Which songs were recorded live with some over dubs added later? 

4. what were the most difficult aspects of recording both of those records? what were the easiest aspects?  

 

thanks!! 

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Hi, on Melon Collie pretty much all the bass is Darcy and certainly no replays by Billy. The first record is mostly live backing tracks, as one of the goals was to capture the feel of them as a live band.

As for James he played all his parts, with James leading the way on most of his songs.

As mentioned above a lot of the record was tracked live- in fact I would say the majority but there was always a lot of overdubbing.

I dont think for me there were any difficult aspects, possibly keeping on top of the sheer volume of material, but overall it was a thoroughly creative and fun album to make.

As for Machina with the exception of my comments about James, it was pretty much the opposite, tho' Jimmy and Billy did do a lot of the backing tracks together. 

All the best 

Flood

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Hi, on Melon Collie pretty much all the bass is Darcy and certainly no replays by Billy. The first record is mostly live backing tracks, as one of the goals was to capture the feel of them as a live band.

As for James he played all his parts, with James leading the way on most of his songs.

As mentioned above a lot of the record was tracked live- in fact I would say the majority but there was always a lot of overdubbing.

I dont think for me there were any difficult aspects, possibly keeping on top of the sheer volume of material, but overall it was a thoroughly creative and fun album to make.

As for Machina with the exception of my comments about James, it was pretty much the opposite, tho' Jimmy and Billy did do a lot of the backing tracks together. 

All the best 

Flood

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thanks for the response!! hope you don't mind me asking more questions.. 

Corgan recently stated that he played drums on Cupid De Locke.. I was always under the impression that the kit sound was chamberlin playing as it sounds like his approach.  What did Corgan do drum wise on this song?  

How much of a presence did Darcy have on Machina? How badly did her leaving the band hamper the recording process? did the band have to essentially start over? I also read reports that James did some of the bass tracks.. any truth to this? 

 

of all the tracks you recorded with SP, which was your favorite to work on and why? least favorite to work on? 

How much presense do you have on the Adore record? any interesting insights you could share on the process of creating that record (it is probably my favorite from SP).  

 

thanks again! 

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Hi, my memory is a little woolly about certain specifics on Melon Collie. I think on Cupid it was a series of loops by Jimmy that Billy put together but I could have remembered incorrectly!

Sadly Darcy's presence on Machina declined over the first 3 months of recording. This meant we had to completely rethink and redo everything. James did play some of the bass tracks.

I have neither a best or worst track they all had their own lives, though 1979 coming through was very gratifying.

On Adore I came into finish off and mix the record but I was also there to help Billy finish as I think he felt isolated. There was a lot of tension and no Jimmy, all of which are reflected in the overall sound and feel of the record. But the songs are some of Billy's best and most personal.

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The process you describe on Cupid sounds like it may have been used on songs like Beautiful, and 1979 as well. Obviously you would know better than me though! I have always wondered if the live drum set on 1979 was looped or Jimmy playing along with the machine stuff. I know Billy has said that 1979 has sampled gtr parts, so it's seems like of all the tracks this one was the most likely of being BC/JC only, especially since it has been described as a last minute addition.

On a quick personal note - Thank you Flood for all the great albums you have been a part of over the years. Looking at my collection the names that come up the most are yours, and Alan Moulder. I plan to try out your presets on the Space pedal when I can get my hands on one! 

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Hi, you are right about Beautiful and 1979. With 1979 Jimmy drummed over the drum machine loop. Also we sampled gtrs, voices and drums to make this track. However this track was not last minute but had been around for a while but I kept on pushing Billy to come up with better arrangements. It reached a point where it had one last chance to work and the rest as they say is history!

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